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Terminator 6 – what we know so far…

The sixth instalment in the Terminator saga has a lot riding on it. If this instalment fails to impress fans and critics alike, then I think its safe to say that the franchise is… terminated!

All of us here at GoneFullGeek are desperate for the Terminator franchise to get back on-track. So let’s have a quick look at what has been, and discuss our hopes for what’s to come.


“From the ashes of the nuclear fire”

Right, I’m sure we can all agree that the first two movies in the franchise are pure sci-fi brilliance.

The Terminator is a tense, gritty, low budget thriller – with elements of horror – where an unstoppable killing machine is hunting an innocent waitress.

Although Conan: The Barbarian got Schwarzenegger noticed, it was 1984’s The Terminator that made him the action movie star of the 80’s. But, it was the 1991 sequel; Terminator 2: Judgment Day that made Arnie the ultimate action hero, ever!

James Cameron – responsible for two of the greatest sequels ever made (T2 and Aliens), took the formula of the original instalment and flipped it completely on it’s head.

He turned the iconic unstoppable killing machine into a heroic father figure – and the rest is history.

Mr Cameron, content that he had finished the story of Sarah and John Connor vs. Skynet, decided not to return for the third movie, and this is where things took a turn for the worse.


Is the franchise out of time?

Jonathan Mostow destroyed many fans dreams – myself included – way back in 2003, with the lacklustre, tonally redundant Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. Since then, I think we can all agree the franchise has had a rather bumpy ride without James Cameron’s involvement.

For what it’s worth, I thought 2009’s Terminator Salvation was a step in the right direction for the franchise. Sure, McG seemed like a worrying choice for the forth instalment at the time. But I must say, the tone of the movie was gritty and less pantomime that T3, with a relatively decent cast to boot.

Unfortunately, due to the awful Terminator 3, and the lack of a certain Mr Schwarzenegger, the film failed to impress at the box office and the planned trilogy was cancelled.

Next came Terminator Genisys – the title itself is enough to manage your expectations.

Even though this fifth entry marked the return of Arnold Schwarzenegger to the role of the iconic T-800. The film was – for me – very much a step backwards, and more akin to Terminator 3 in terms of an over reliance of CGI and terribly placed (almost slapstick) comedy.

Although on paper the idea that Terminator Genisys would cross/remix timelines with the 1984 original; The Terminator, what we ended up with was nothing but an insult to long-term fans of T1 and T2.

As guessed, this – another planned trilogy starter – also bombed at the box office both critically and commercially.


No Fate, but what we make…

So where does this leave us – the fans of The Terminator and Terminator 2: Judgment Day?

Sadly, we have been at the mercy of clueless studio execs and greedy corporate morons for the past 16 years. Now, with the rights to the Terminator having returned to franchise creator; James Cameron, maybe there’s hope yet.

The only way to tell, is to go watch the movie when it releases. But, if it disappoints fans, then audiences need to ensure Hollywood listens. Sadly in this day and age, the only way to make this happen is by speaking with our wallets.

If this sequel turns out to be another cash grab at a dying franchise, then any further sequels should be avoided on principle!

That said, here’s what we know so far?…


Dark Fate, Bright Future?

The Terminator and Terminator 2: Judgment Day director; James Cameron, now has the rights back to the franchise he started way back in 1984. This time Mr Cameron is acting as producer for this upcoming sequel, with Deadpool director Tim Miller sitting at the helm.

Last week, Mr Cameron dropped a few droplets of mimetic polyalloy and gave a hint at what’s to come.

Terminator 6 (or Terminator Phoenix) has now been given a new – very James Cameron style – “working title”… Terminator: Dark Fate.

Now, given that there must be a trailer dropping fairly soon, I’m pretty confident that this will be the final title for the movie.

Terminator: Dark Fate is scheduled to release in U.K. cinemas on 23rd October 2019 and U.S. theatres 1st November 2019, and first teasers/trailers tend to land around 5 -6 months prior to the movies release – so expect to see some form of trailer in March/April.


Retcon: Rewriting the Timeline!

Terminator: Dark Fate will make a similar move to the recent (and great) Halloween sequel, by saying “Hasta La Vista, Baby!” to all sequels after Terminator 2.

So, whether this means that T3 through to Genisys will be treat as a bad dream, alternate timeline or simply ignored completely, is yet to be seen.

This means that Dark Fate will officially act as the third movie in the Terminator franchise.

Following on from Judgment Day, the title of Dark Fate eludes to a troubled future.

From all promotional smippets and images shared so far, the focus has been primarily on Sarah Connor, with little to no mention of her son and leader of the Human Resistance; John Connor.

Does Dark Fate mean that John is no-longer the saviour of mankind? Has he been terminated, leaving battle-hardened Sarah with the task of saving the world?


They’re Back!

Not only is James Cameron returning to the franchise after 28 years of absence, but both franchise veterans Arnold Schwarzenegger and Linda Hamilton are returning as The Terminator and Sarah Connor, respectively.

Fingers-crossed Mr Cameron can bring Brad Fiedel back to the franchise to revive and bring a new twist to his iconic score.

Joining Arnie and Linda are Mackenzie Davis (Blade Runner 2049) as Grace (some sort of cyborg hybrid), Natalia Reyes as Dani Ramos and Gabriel Luna as an undisclosed “new” Terminator.

Although John Connor looks to be taking a backseat in this upcoming sequel, there are rumours that we will see a stand-in with a CGI likeness of T2‘s Edward Furlong as younger John in some form of flashback.


Passing the baton…

Although I am extremely excited for Terminator: Dark Fate, I am also concerned too.

Much like Salvation and Genisys before it, Dark Fate is also the first new instalment in a planned trilogy – it does appear Hollywood lacks the ability to simply plan one film at a time nowadays!

This entry in the franchise will see the seasoned warriors that are Arnie and Linda pass the “franchise baton” to a new, younger cast. Fingers-crossed the new cast can fill the “clothes, boots and motorcycle” left behind.

Although I am all for equality, I can’t help but notice that Terminator: Dark Fate has been touted as a “female-centric” movie.

Now before you attack me, I’m not saying that this statement is a bad thing. I just hope it’s not simply exploited as a lame attempt to “tick a politically correct box”.

Afterall, Sarah Connor is the ultimate female badass – even more so than Ellen Ripley, and a worthy human hero for the Terminator franchise.


T-800: Hero or Villain?

Lastly, I want to know what type of role Arnold will be playing as this grizzly bearded, older Terminator. Will he be the all-too-familiar hero we have come to bore of since Terminator 2, or will they dare take the franchise back to it’s roots and have Arnie portray a villainous T-800 once again?

Let’s not forget that at the press release for Alita: Battle Angel, James Cameron stated that:

“Arnold is back, and he is bad. He’s a different Terminator than you’ve ever seen before.” … “Literally… a different chassis number, but he is also a very different guy than you’ve seen before.”


James Cameron | Terminator: Dark Fate (producer)

He continued:

“And Linda [Hamilton] is there to do battle,” … “She’s there to kick ass and take names.”


James Cameron | Terminator: Dark Fate (producer)

I’d rather he was the villain and hope that Dark Fate is more akin to the tone of the original; The Terminator, whilst having the budget and spectacle of Terminator 2: Judgment Day.


Your Thoughts?

Are you looking-forward to Terminator: Dark Fate, or would you rather they left the franchise alone?

Drop a comment below and let me know your thoughts.